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Re: What items are so useful they should be issued at birth to everyone?
« Reply #30 on: November 15, 2017, 12:10:00 PM »
or landed with . :o

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Re: What items are so useful they should be issued at birth to everyone?
« Reply #31 on: November 15, 2017, 01:31:36 PM »
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I'll never admit to it, Anto.... ;)

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Re: What items are so useful they should be issued at birth to everyone?
« Reply #32 on: November 15, 2017, 03:38:40 PM »
Toe straps (use them for all sorts of things other than what they are meant for) and tea bags. I cannot live without constant cups of tea!
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Re: What items are so useful they should be issued at birth to everyone?
« Reply #33 on: November 15, 2017, 04:44:49 PM »
they will never catch on those rohloff hubs..

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Re: What items are so useful they should be issued at birth to everyone?
« Reply #34 on: November 15, 2017, 05:40:50 PM »
Anto, you have to disguise your lust for these things a bit better ;)

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Re: What items are so useful they should be issued at birth to everyone?
« Reply #35 on: November 15, 2017, 08:00:00 PM »
John i often thought if i won the lottery would i secretly buy a rohloff go anywhere bike.
Honestly not a chance  maybe if i was 40 years younger and had plans to cycle tour the planet.
but i'm way past those thoughts now so sticking to what i know and love.    Shimano. ;)


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Re: What items are so useful they should be issued at birth to everyone?
« Reply #36 on: November 15, 2017, 11:03:37 PM »
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sticking to what i know and love

As you should, lad -- if it works for you, stay with it.

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Re: What items are so useful they should be issued at birth to everyone?
« Reply #37 on: November 15, 2017, 11:10:28 PM »
 
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sticking to what i know and love

As you should, lad -- if it works for you, stay with it.

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Re: What items are so useful they should be issued at birth to everyone?
« Reply #38 on: November 15, 2017, 11:18:59 PM »
Since this is a Muppets thread, I can confess that I always thought Shimano gives you pretty good value for a fair price, especially considering how much they must spend on innovation and especially development of other people's ideas that they bought in, the Shimano hub dynamo, obsessively developed from the Sanyo design they bought being a good example of the latter.

The point about the Rohloff is that Bernd Rohloff gives you extraordinary value for, in the context, a relatively low price -- about the same as a really top-end Shimano road gruppo. I'm not making a comparison, you understand: I grasp that they're like chalk and cheese, but they are about the same price.

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Re: What items are so useful they should be issued at birth to everyone?
« Reply #39 on: November 16, 2017, 05:08:33 PM »
Maybe so Andre but  it doesn't look half as good as Dura Ace ;)
imagine putting a Rohloff hub on say top of the line Colnago carbon  frame .
man talk about making a pigs ear our of a work of art.
just saying :o

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Re: What items are so useful they should be issued at birth to everyone?
« Reply #41 on: November 25, 2017, 11:02:58 PM »
Maybe so Andre but  it doesn't look half as good as Dura Ace ;)
imagine putting a Rohloff hub on say top of the line Colnago carbon  frame .
man talk about making a pigs ear our of a work of art.

What looks good to anybody, Anto, depends on their background. If you're an old bicycle racer, DuraAce might look good to you. I'm an old motor, boat and plane racer, so to me gear hanging out in the airstream, gathering grinding paste, just looks incompetently packaged. That's not all. i'm at heart an endurance racer, so to me derailleurs don't only look incompetently packaged but also stupidly underweight and fragile and vulnerable. As for the carbon bike, why should I want to be seen dead on it? I'm the original man in the grey flannel suit: I don't follow the fashion, I make it. As far as I can see, DuraAce* is a marketing gimmick for wannabe road racers.

For all those reasons (superior engineering, packaging and function) a Rohloff looks just right to me. Form follows function, me old son, and when you're as fast as I used to be, you really need a Rohloff. Besides, I tell the ladies I meet at the top of the hill that it's a single-speeder and invite them to feel my thigh-muscles.

* When I said Shimano gives you a lot for your money, I didn't mean DuraAce, which is overpriced bling for cafe racers. I first said it years ago, and I've never changed my mind: Shimano is fabulous value all the way up to Deore; any higher than that is for show-offs who need the name to confirm their manhood.

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Re: What items are so useful they should be issued at birth to everyone?
« Reply #42 on: November 25, 2017, 11:59:55 PM »
Shimano make great stuff, but they should have stuck with what they know - fishing.
Only kidding, my Nexus hub is fine, not in the same class as the Rohloff but for a tenth of the price I wasn't expecting it to be.