Author Topic: Which Raven Model? (& Max Load Chart)  (Read 37066 times)

stutho

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Which Raven Model? (& Max Load Chart)
« on: May 15, 2007, 12:34:28 PM »
** Warning this is MY interpretation, not SJSC's they know better  **

Before reading through this table I should point out that the Ravens are very versatile and can be set up in a number of ways. This table is only designed to give a pointer in the right direction, final setup is all-important.



Rankings are:

7 = Highly Specialist (therefore not an all-rounder)
6 = Somewhat Specialist
5 = Highly Suitable
4 = Good Suitability
3 = Average Suitability
2 = Usable
1 = Not designed for environment

All the Ravens are a high quality bikes. I designed this table to differentiate between the Raven models, not to rank a Raven against any other bikes. I have tried to use the Raven Tour as the base line - a good all rounder.

Max Luggage: Please note that rider weight and especially road surface should be taken into account in calculating your maximum allowance.

I am open to comments, suggestions and corrections!

** Warning this is MY interpretation, not SJSC's they know better **
« Last Edit: June 22, 2010, 09:09:42 AM by stutho »

stutho

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Re: Which Raven Model?
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2007, 12:45:22 PM »
Sorry I cant get the table to align properly. Anyone know now to embed a table in the post?
« Last Edit: May 15, 2007, 02:45:29 PM by stutho »

Fred A-M

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Re: Which Raven Model?
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2007, 05:09:58 PM »
Out of interest Stuart, where did you get the 18Kg figure for the RST from?  I'd always thought it was 15kg and so would be happy to learn otherwise!
 

stutho

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Re: Which Raven Model?
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2007, 06:52:46 PM »
Actually we are both wrong! It's 12kg rear and 5kg front. (17kg)
Thanks for making me check Fred - I will updated the table.

julk

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Re: Which Raven Model?
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2007, 11:10:42 PM »
Stuart,
Regarding formatting/displaying a table in a post - I can think of 2 options :-

1. Request/persuade Forum Admin to activate table features of HTML in the Forum Code.
A point to consider is how good is your HTML?

2. Build the table in another application, e.g. word processor/spreadsheet and take a picture of it.
Post the table picture on a publicly accessible photo site and use the
[img] internet address of table picture [/img***] feature to include the table in your post.

Please note the end of image address tag should be /img with square brackets [ ] round it,
i.e. [/img***] is wrong,
I included *** to make it show the tag text in this post, without the *** most of my post turns into a missing image!

This latter [img] technique definitely works in the Members Gallery to show pictures of bikes.

stutho

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Re: Which Raven Model?
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2007, 08:38:22 AM »
Thanks Julk,

Those are the same options that I came up with.

I was thinking of taking a screen shot and then photo editing etc.  My HTML only extends as far as knowing it stands for, now if it were 'C' I would be sorted - I write embedded code for a living!  I keep meaning to design a small web page but I never seam to get around to it.

Thanks again

Stuart

Fred A-M

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Re: Which Raven Model?
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2007, 03:44:36 PM »
Looks very clear, SJS would do well to adopt something similar on their site IMO under the same banner: it could/would eliminate a lot of uncertainty at a glance amongst (most) prospective clients and doubtlessly prevent unnecesary aggro too!
 

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Re: Which Raven Model?
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2007, 03:54:01 PM »
Thanks Fred

Do you think I have got the suitability ranking about right?




« Last Edit: May 18, 2007, 03:55:27 PM by stutho »

Swislon

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Re: Which Raven Model?
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2007, 05:41:10 PM »
Hi Stuart,

RST = Fast touring for me.

What do the numbers mean 5+ for eg? Is it suitability with 5 meaning extremely suitable for this application.

Steve

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Re: Which Raven Model?
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2007, 07:15:36 PM »
Hi Swislon,

I have rated each of the Ravens in 3 environments.  On road, unsealed roads - where stability is more important than agility and off road where the opposite is true.
rankings are:

5+ =Highly suitable (Best in class)
5  = Highly suitable (designed especially for this environment)
4  = good suitability
3  = average
2  = usable
1  = not designed for environment

All the Ravens are a high quality bikes.  I designed this table to differentiate between the Raven models, not to rank a Raven against any other bikes.  I have tried to use the Raven Tour as the base line - a good all rounder.

Let me know if you think the ranking are out on any bike.

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Re: Which Raven Model?
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2007, 09:11:27 PM »
Hi Stuart,

My comment was more that rather than "Touring" I would describe the role of the RST as Fast Touring. The Raven as Touring, Nomad as Adventure Touring, EXP as Extreme Adventure Touring etc.

Just my thoughts.

Steve

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Re: Which Raven Model?
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2007, 03:25:07 PM »
Hi Swislon,

I will adjust the table on Monday, I can't do it from this computer.  However I am only going to change the role of the RST. I think of the Raven Tour as far more rugged than a standard touring machine.  I also don't propose to add the EXP range to the list - Ravens only.  

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Re: Which Raven Model?
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2007, 07:09:40 PM »
Hi Stuart,

You might want to change "Mounting" biking to "Mountain" before someone gets the wrong idea !![:D][:D]

Steve

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Re: Which Raven Model?
« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2007, 08:03:31 PM »
Doh!
Thanks!

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Re: Which Raven Model?
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2007, 12:47:19 PM »
Stutho - hello - a useful table.

Could you clarify why you regards the Touras more Adventure Touring than the Sport Tour - ruggedness / frame strength??  or geometry??  I understood that the Tour is only a little heavier than the RST.

Lewis