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Events / Festivals, events for 2024
« Last post by Danneaux on April 07, 2024, 08:07:55 pm »
Brought to my attention by a thoughtful member...

https://cycletouringfestival.co.uk

Notice appeared near the top of this page...
https://www.bicycletraveler.bicyclingaroundtheworld.nl

Also, this looks interesting.
https://cycletouringfestival.co.uk/resources/

Best, Dan.
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Bikes For Sale / Thorn triplet Me N U2 tandem for sale
« Last post by Domola1 on April 07, 2024, 05:17:42 pm »
Yellow triplet tandem for sale. It's large - 281cm long, with 26 inch wheels. This takes one adult and two children (ours were about 5-12 when they were on it). It has been kept garaged and hasn't been used for a couple of years  - our kids are too big now. 
You get a lot of notice when you are on it - people look at you and comment.
If you have any questions, please ask. We are based in Hassocks, near Brighton.
£700 ONO
domola1@yahoo.co.uk
Photos at: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1JWva9OQa0FTS47FFf1HN3p4WwOT5DMKW
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Thorn General / Re: Kickstand on a Nomad or a Raven anyone?
« Last post by Andyb1 on April 03, 2024, 06:48:15 pm »
I am afraid that I do not understand why people think they need a stand.  Easy enough to stop where there is something to lean the bike against, or use a piece of wood to prop the bike up if you have to.  Or even lay it down.
Negatives are….weight….noise…..spring failing and the stand dropping….the bike falling over with the stand down (digs into the ground or luggage unbalances it) resulting in damage.
Even on a sandy beach I could find a piece of driftwood to prop the bike up.   A stand would simply have dug into the ground.  See photo.
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Bikes For Sale / Thorn Audax for sale in Taunton
« Last post by Andyb1 on April 03, 2024, 01:16:44 pm »
I saw the bike at On Your Bike which is a charity, based at Taunton Railway Station.    It is a dark green Audax with 52cm frame (medium?), Hollow tech II BB, looked nice.  £350 seemed a bargain?

OYB recycle old bikes and will take your useable unwanted parts.

As always, please check out for yourself, I have no connection with seller.
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Rohloff Internal Hub Gears / Re: Sent my Rohloff in!
« Last post by Thomas777 on April 01, 2024, 01:06:41 pm »
My wife's  Rohloff  wheel is back from Peter White Cycles and installed on her bike!
Now we are going to experiment with some new handlebars!
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Thorn General / Re: Kickstand on a Nomad or a Raven anyone?
« Last post by Andre Jute on March 31, 2024, 12:15:34 am »
I am not yet used to the concept of electronic devices posting to forums for the sole purpose of wasting my time

It's not your time they want, George, it's your money. Some Chinese sharks on Aliexpress have refined their AI-driven "chat" so as to baffle customers into giving up their claim to a refund. I'll report back when I've kicked them in the goalies at least a million times what I've lost.

Returning to the actual subject of the thread:

If I were a bicycle manufacturer who went to the design cost of making a bike weighing only as much as necessary to make it fit for purpose plus a conservative or even generous margin for safety, I'd be very brassed off if random bicyclists without engineering training -- which lets you out -- started sticking on stands on clamps that could crush or fracture carefully calculated and chosen thin wall tubing.

On the other hand, I think it is pretty stupid to build a touring bike on which a stand isn't standard equipment or an option, but in any event allowed for in the design, among other reasons as a control on random owners' foolishness. It is another example of the all-too common error by bicycle designers -- even good ones -- of not putting their minds in gear, of simply not thinking about which road bike conventions don't belong in touring bikes.

All the same, I would reject the common clamp-type of stand-fixing as simply too likely to cause a problem. It should be clear that I consider this near-universal rejection of bicycle stands among bicycle-makers as a prejudice of old racers, but in the specific case of stands which require clamps to thin-wall steel tubes, I absolutely agree with them that they are too risky in DIY hands.

Instead, I like the tab-type of stand-fixing that ESGE, and presumably others, offer. This consists of a thick, tapped, rectangle of metal soldered or welded under the non-driveside chainstay as near to the axle hanger (or possibly the disc brake brace between the chainstay and the seatstay) as possible, and thus shares the torsional load between two frame tubes. Or even three tubes as on the photo of a mixte touring bike with a 180kg load capacity.

Note that the photographed bike has a disc reinforcement (the perforated half-moon) on only one side of the frame whereas in your photo of your yellow Thorn both sides of the rear triangle are braced, so that, all other elements being equal, the Thorn 4-tube rear end could easily be as strong as the mixte 6-tube design once the axle is bolted in.

ESGE tab-mount stand, mounting detail left, load paths right. If you want to study the arrangement on a sharper picture than this screen dump, there's a PDF at http://coolmainpress.com/AndreJute'sUtopiaKranich.pdf -- just keep scrolling down in it until you see the photos above.
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Thorn General / Re: Kickstand on a Nomad or a Raven anyone?
« Last post by mickeg on March 30, 2024, 09:31:49 am »
I am not yet used to the concept of electronic devices posting to forums for the sole purpose of wasting my time, thanks for clarifying that such things occur. 
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Thorn General / Re: Kickstand on a Nomad or a Raven anyone?
« Last post by Danneaux on March 29, 2024, 11:28:00 pm »
I banned the member for the reasons cited by WorldTourer, but left the post up as it is a topic that arises periodically and it seemed useful to address. George's link in response nicely tied it to earlier discussions; hopefully helpful for those to follow.

Best, Dan.
Thorn Cycles Forum Administrator
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Thorn General / Re: Kickstand on a Nomad or a Raven anyone?
« Last post by WorldTourer on March 29, 2024, 08:46:11 pm »
Mick, the post you replied to is almost certainly linkspam generated with ChatGPT or a similar tool. (Sole post by this account, Italian username but two links to a Ukrainian-language content farm, etc.) Just report and move on.
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Thorn General / Re: Kickstand on a Nomad or a Raven anyone?
« Last post by mickeg on March 29, 2024, 06:26:40 pm »
Kickstand on a Nomad or a Raven anyone? Let's talk about the pros and cons of adding a kickstand to these Thorn models. While some may argue that a kickstand adds unnecessary weight and can be a hassle while riding, others swear by the convenience it provides when stopping for a quick break or taking photos on the go. What are your thoughts on this controversial topic?
 
Site

I think that Thorn still says that if you need warranty work, if they deem that the kickstand caused it, they will not stand by the warranty.

That said, I use a kickstand on my Sherpa and on my Nomad Mk II.  It is a Greenfield model that clamps onto the chainstay and seatstay near the rear axle.

That has been discussed on this forum before, there is a long thread on that:
https://thorncyclesforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=1964.0

But the newest post at that thread is 10 years old, so the Thorn position may have changed since then.

Two photos, attached.

Do so at your own risk.
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