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General Technical / Re: sjs query
« Last post by Andre Jute on September 15, 2019, 09:48:26 AM »
Congratulations! Look forward to your photos.
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General Technical / Re: sjs query
« Last post by sdg_77 on September 15, 2019, 08:38:07 AM »
Apologies re the lengthy delay in updating this saga ... but the end result is a success  :)

The original/standard 48 tooth Bafang chainwheel was too large for Gill to make much use of the rear sprocket cluster - she was mostly cycling on the largest two sprockets.  We did try a Bafang 44 tooth but this would not fit with the 9 speed Shimano chain - which worked fine with the 48.  Personally - I think the 44 tooth wheel was either cut from thicker steel or had too much paint applied.  So I got in touch with Brighton eBikes and we have ended up with a Lekkie Bling Ring 42 tooth as this will fit onto the motor unit without modifications. There is a 40 tooth version but that come with a replacement outer cover for the motor unit gear casing - as you might imagine - costs a lot more.

With the new ring fitted we went off on holiday to Scotland (motorhome touring) and had a few days out on the bikes.  For us, this is a success as Gill is now not feeling like she has to struggle to keep up and I'm not either worrying she is not enjoying the route or stopping to let her catch up.  We did a route along the Solway coast to Caerlaverock Castle and the Wetlands reserve on a greyish breezy day.  On the way out she had the assistance set on 2 or 3 and we were able to talk comfortably as we went along.  As time went by and the breeze picked up, she wound the assistance up and finished the day on 6 or 7.  Into a headwind for the last 10 or so km we arrived back both in about the same state of tiredness.

I did make up an aluminium adaptor for the battery box to allow it to fit onto the Thorn bottle lugs, but aside from that the fitting went pretty much straightforward.

Worth watching videos of the fitting process if you want to have a go - its not difficult but the supplied instructions are not good.  I found this Rev Bekka video easy to follow. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcYVyuDC6e8

Very impressed with the assistance from Brighton eBikes too - If I convert one of my own bikes I'll probably buy the kit from them.

photos to follow - possibly when I have tidied up the wiring and battery box adaptor :-)

Thanks to all for your advice etc.
sdg

Edit:  Caerlaverock Castle not Culzean and spell checked :-)

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Bikes For Sale / Re: US-based 565L Nomad for sale
« Last post by Andre Jute on September 14, 2019, 09:25:51 AM »
Does seeing a tandem count as 2 points?

One-and-a-half points. You want the full two points, the tandem needs to be ridden by two nuns.

That reminded me of the time a few years ago, I was cycling along a bike path here in Aberdeenshire- , a disused railway track.
In the distance I could hear bagpipes.
The sound became louder until from around a corner a tandem cruised into view with the ' stoker' playing the pipes!
I rarely fall off my Raven but I certainly came close.

And you start wondering what's in that baggie of tea leaves your American cousins sent you when you were trying to stop smoking...

That gets you two full points, for sure.

One bagpipe player = Two nuns = Two points.

I've never even seen a tandem in West Cork, though it should be said that a tandem event hereabouts would almost certainly be tied to tourists passing through on the dangerous-to-lethal main roads -- blink and you miss them -- while the local cyclists know all the little stress-free lanes with tight turns where a tandem would be more of a menace than a pleasure.
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Bikes For Sale / Re: US-based 565L Nomad for sale
« Last post by Matt2matt2002 on September 13, 2019, 11:36:13 PM »
Does seeing a tandem count as 2 points?

One-and-a-half points. You want the full two points, the tandem needs to be ridden by two nuns.

That reminded me of the time a few years ago, I was cycling along a bike path here in Aberdeenshire- , a disused railway track.
In the distance I could hear bagpipes.
The sound became louder until from around a corner a tandem cruised into view with the ' stoker' playing the pipes!
I rarely fall off my Raven but I certainly came close.
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Bikes For Sale / Re: US-based 565L Nomad for sale
« Last post by Spencer brady on September 13, 2019, 09:37:02 PM »
hey! you found my bike :) still for sale
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Transmission / Re: Thorn Nomad chain replacement + sprocket & hub question
« Last post by John Saxby on September 13, 2019, 03:50:32 PM »
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seems like it's sorted...a lot quieter with an occasional click.

Glad to hear you've made some progress, Karl. I had similar problems with my Raven in June/July, and following the same drill as you, I've reached the same spot as you.

Not quite a "conclusion", but for the moment, there's no major problem.  So, I've decided to adjust my expectations & live with "an occasional click".  (Until it bugs me enough that I repeat the whole bizness...)

Enjoy your tour!
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Bikes For Sale / Thorn Nomad Mk2 590L Rohloff Black (2016) for sale Morayshire
« Last post by dereksheph on September 13, 2019, 01:55:46 PM »
So I’ve finally decided to sell my beloved Nomad, “The Beast”. It truly is an exceptional bike and our relationship really blossomed into one of huge respect and affection. This the best touring and expedition bike you can buy!
This bike was bought for a specific long distance trip which was truncated then eventually abandoned due to my partner becoming ill. It’s never really been used since which is a shame. The huge potential these bikes are designed for is wasted and its now only seeing the light of day for a rare wipe with a cloth and returned to the outside bike shed. A bike like this deserves to be ridden – a lot - and used for what it’s designed for.
The condition of the bike is very good and that there are no faults with the bike at all. I swapped out the initial chainring for an easier 38T (from SJS) but have the original which is in as new condition. Also, the original Schwalbe Duremes have been replaced with Schwalbe Marathon Plus tyres which are in great nick. The Rohloff oil has been changed as recommended. Cinq, Edelux and Son components all in perfect working order. The chain was replaced 400 miles ago. I touched up the inevitable paint chips and scratches with enamel paint and the only “issue” was that the back end of the rear rack was bent slightly in transit courtesy of Alitalia. I straightened it and it works perfectly. (See photos) I’ve included the full spec below and as you’ll see, I went for the Full Monty.
Also comes with new replacement brake cables and Rohloff gear cables still unopened in original packaging and four new blue Swisstop brake pads. PLEASE NOTE: I WILL NOT be including the Brooks saddle as it’s far too molded to my particular derriere. I can probably find another saddle from somewhere but expect the buyer will want to use their own. The original front racks have now been reattached. I will try to post photos with this advert but have had issues in the past. If you would like other/particular photos, please email me and I’d be delighted to oblige. Likewise, I am very happy for any inspection of the bike and can answer any questions here or via email. I can post the bike at buyer’s expense. See below for the full spec as purchased in 2016: Pics can be seen here: (couldn't get them to upload on this site!): https://www.gumtree.com/p/bicycles/thorn-nomad-mk2-rohloff-for-sale-morayshire/1352337334


Item no Product
10745 (Kitpart) OEM Rohloff Speedhub 500/14 CC 14 Spd Gear Hub 32h Black with EX box inc. 17T Sprocket & Tandem Axle Plate
10837 (Kitpart) Titanium Rear Quick Release Skewer for 135mm OLN Hubs - Black B 03 A34
10985 (Kitpart) Profile Design Kage G 04 A
11054S44 Thorn 104mm BCD 4 Arm Reversible Single Chainring 3/32 Inch - Black - 44T (swapped out for 38T but original included) W 10 I1
11576 Thorn MkV Cro Mo Steel Lo-Loader - Black Powder Coat K 22 B
12859 (Kitpart) Rigida Andra 30 26" , 559 MTB CSS Rim - Regular Drilling - Black - 32 Hole R 05 B2-7
13032 (Kitpart) Swissstop Blue Brake Pads for Deore / LX / XT / XTR Brakes - for Ceramic & Carbide CSS Rims P 04 C6
13269 (Kitpart) Rigida Andra 30 26" , 559 MTB CSS Rim - Rohloff Drilling - Black - 32 Hole R 01 C3-8
21416S590L Thorn Nomad MK2 Frame & Fork Set - Matt Black - 590L L LEFT
21766 (Kitpart) Schwalbe Marathon Dureme HS410 Folding Tyre - 26 x 2.0 Inch , 50-559 (Now has Marathon Plus tyres front and back) X 08 A1
23276 (Kitpart) SJSC Reinforce Nylon Rim Tape - 26" , 559 x 22 mm - Red P 14 D1
26973S107 (Kitpart) Shimano UN55 73mm Shell English Thread Sealed Cartridge Taper Bottom Bracket - 107mm P 45 I8
27087H32 (Kitpart) Schmidt SON 28 Dynamo Front Hub - Black - 32 Hole P 04 D6
27429 (Kitpart) Jtek M8 Single Chainring Bolts, Stainless Steel - Pack of 5 X 03 F7
27430 (Kitpart) Jtek M8 Crankset Bolts, Stainless Steel - Pack of 2 X 06 F1
30280 (Kitpart) OEM KMC X1 Rohloff compatible 1/2 inch x 3/32 inch chain. W/S
30316 (Kitpart) OEM Shimano Deore XT BL-T780 Trekking V Brake Levers B 03 A9-10
30318 (Kitpart) OEM Shimano Deore XT BR-T780 V Brake - FRONT P 03 F3-6
30614 OEM Ergon GP5-L Anatomic Grips - Large - Black B 01 B1
30777 (Kitpart) Bicycle Wheel Reflectors - Orange K 01 B
31813L175 (Kitpart) Thorn 104/64 PCD Triple Crankset MK2 - Black - 175mm Y 04 D2-3
32128 Cinq5 The Plug III Hub Dynamo Powered Charging Device K 17 C2
33360L140 Schmidt Edelux II High Power LED Headlight - Black Anodized - 140 cm X 01 D5
34054 OEM SKS / Thorn Chromoplastic Mudguards - 26 Inch - P55 - Black B 01 A4
34376 (Kitpart) OEM Shimano Deore XT BR-T780 V Brake - REAR P 27 D1
35442 (Kitpart) Thorn Ping Bell - 22.2mm - Black P 24 D8
37152 (Kitpart) Thorn eXp Flat Handlebar - 12.5 Deg - 31.8mm Clamp - 680mm - Black B 03 B5
3828 (Kitpart) Schwalbe SV13 Presta Tube - 26" Tyres - 40-559 to 62-559 J 01 C1-5
38457 Thorn Expedition Steel Rear Cycle Pannier Rack - SECONDS K 02 B
680 Shimano PD-M324 SPD Pedals P 48 I5
765S OEM Brooks B17 Standard Leather saddle Black with black steel rails S 03 D1-10
BLD36123 X Thorn Nomad Mk2. BIKE BUILD
KIT14447 175mm BLACK Cranks Thorn *CHOOSE 104 CHAINRING* KIT
KIT18919 Profile Design bottle cages x 3 Kit KIT
KIT25527 Hub BLACK Rohloff EX box KIT
KIT25529 Hub BLACK Schmidt SON 28 Front 32h KIT
KIT25535 Rims BLACK Andra 30 CSS 26" & SwissStop pads - 32h KIT
KIT25607 Tyres FOLDING - Schwalbe Marathon Dureme 26 x 2.0" reflex & presta tubes KIT
KIT28797 [SB] Shimano XT V Brakes,with XT levers KIT
KIT38749 Bars Straight - BLACK Thorn eXp Flat bar - 31.8mm Clamp KIT
OWNMAN (Kitpart) Thorn Bicycle & Tandem Owners Guide SHOW ROOM

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Transmission / Re: Thorn Nomad chain replacement + sprocket & hub question
« Last post by KvBCycles on September 13, 2019, 12:49:04 PM »
Morning gents, thank you for the advice.
What I've managed to do is visit a bike hire shop here in Rovinj and borrowed a pair of their pedals, unfortunately cnc persisted.
Before putting my spd's back on I got some grease from the shop and greased the pedals nicely and fitted them back on. I then removed the seat post, greased and fitted. I then went over what I could, tightening the fore and rear panniers, chainring bolts and EBB bolts.
Took a ride up a hill and it seems like it's sorted...a lot quieter with an occasional click. Having a rest day today so will find out tomorrow if it's sorted.
Thanks again!
Karl
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Bikes For Sale / Re: US-based 565L Nomad for sale
« Last post by Andre Jute on September 12, 2019, 05:35:57 PM »
Does seeing a tandem count as 2 points?

One-and-a-half points. You want the full two points, the tandem needs to be ridden by two nuns.
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Transmission / Re: Thorn Nomad chain replacement + sprocket & hub question
« Last post by mickeg on September 12, 2019, 03:46:39 PM »
A year ago I had a clicking noise that I diagnosed as in a pedal (Shimano A530), changed pedal with another bike I was not currently using.  This year the other pedal started clicking.  Greased both but the bearings appeared to be tight so I did not touch the bearing adjustment, ridden about 100 km since with silent pedals.

I have had a clicking noise that I thought was drive train in bottom bracket area, finally found it was a rack bolt that was tight but not tight enough.

And a clicking noise that was a non-drive side bottom bracket bushing (UN55) that was tight but not tight enough.

And a creaking noise that was a crank arm (square taper) that needed tightening.  This type of creak is time critical, if you ride too much with this too loose you need a new one.

I have heard of other people having seatpost clicks that they thought was from bottom bracket or pedals or crank, etc.  There are many potential sources of clicks and creaks.

I wear shoes with SPD cleats, the shoe soles often squeak a bit on the pedal as I pedal, but I consider that to be normal.

I agree with the others, likely not a Rohloff problem.

Greasing pedals can be tricky, some pedals have bearings that once loosened up can be very hard to keep tight.  Also, some pedals like Shimano M324 use an odd expensive tool to tighten the bearings.  I mentioned I greased my Shimano A530 pedals above, for that a very inexpensive tool is used,
https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/tools/shimano-tlpd40-spd-clipless-pedal-axle-removal-tool/

To diagnose pedal or crank clicks and creaks, I often stand on one side of the bike, hold the handlebar with one hand while applying the brake lever and the saddle with another hand.  Then stand on one foot while using the other foot to push down on the pedal.  Sometimes that will cause the click or creaking noise. 

For example, I thought my clicking noise was in a pedal but standing on the side of teh bike, it is easier to hear exactly where the clicking or creaking sound is from and in one case I noticed the click was from the back of the bike and I eventually figured out that I had a rack bolt that was not tight enough, pedaling caused frame flex and that frame flex caused the rack to shift the position slightly on the bolt which caused the clicking sound.

You might have to repeat this on each side of the bike a few times to find the location of a click or creak.

If that fails to find the problem, just start tightening and lubing everything in sight.

If you try to remove and re-grease something like pedals, watch about 3 you tube videos first, that usually tells you what you need to know.
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