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Community => Non-Thorn Related => Topic started by: in4 on January 28, 2015, 03:32:47 pm

Title: Solid tyres article
Post by: in4 on January 28, 2015, 03:32:47 pm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/active/recreational-cycling/11365168/Competition-win-a-pair-of-Tannus-solid-bicycle-tyres.html

I like the sound of these

PS A visit to their website has dampened my inital enthusiasm considerably.

http://tannus.co.uk/#usp

1. Fitting = PITA
2. Cost    = PITW
Title: Re: Solid tyres article
Post by: Danneaux on January 28, 2015, 07:25:11 pm
Interesting, Ian.

I'm always intrigued by these things, but have so far been disappointed on the occasions when I've been drawn into dealing with them.

As a breed, Airless tires seem a Great Hope not always realized. The problem is, nothing quite matches the air spring of a conventional pneumatic tire. Substitutes might work pretty well initially, but tend to lose their hysteresis (wrt to rubberlike materials, their "bounciness") over time and become dead-feeling. No one wants them then, and switching back is not an easy task.

I have mounted similar tires for friends and neighbors and found the packaging includes an informal but compulsory language tutorial (one will learn to swear during the process). As difficult as it can be to mount any airless tire, removal after they've been on awhile is a descent to one of Dante's inner circles. Even a coarse-bladed hacksaw wielded diagonally is not enough to split the things asunder but is a great introduction to how tough they can be. Until every last particle is separated, they.will.not.come.off(!). 30in bolt cutters can nibble chunks from them but no more. A chop saw removes v-shaped sections but nothing more without involving the rim. Tire levers are useless to the removal process, and stabbing with a screwdriver is only partially successful in removing the outer layers. I finally took one to the local university and used a colleague's supply of liquid nitrogen to embrittle one of the tires enough to begin breaking chunks off it. Even then, it didn't shatter as I'd expected (hoped).

I really think the Next Big Thing in bicycle locks will be made from the carcasses of old airless tires.

Ah, me. In fairness, I have not tried these, so I must reserve specific judgement.

All the best,

Dan. (...who never tires of these discussions)

Title: Re: Solid tyres article
Post by: Andre Jute on January 28, 2015, 11:44:32 pm
Thanks for the warnings, friends. This is retro-tech I'll give a miss, and pretend I'm too smart even to consider!
Title: Re: Solid tyres article
Post by: John Saxby on January 29, 2015, 01:04:19 am
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the Next Big Thing in bicycle locks will be made from the carcasses of old airless tires

Dan, that was my reaction, reading your account:  applied to the right use, these things could be really useful.  The fact that they look like tires makes people try to use them as such.  Mind you, even if they're as indestructible as you say, there's still the weakest-link problem of the lock required to join them, much like the gateway in an otherwise unbreachable wall.

Wonder what lies behind such initiatives?  Could it be the assumption/belief that an invention so old as the pneumatic tire has to be obsolete?
Title: Re: Solid tyres article
Post by: energyman on February 15, 2022, 09:48:34 pm
My LBS is recommending Tannus inserts for its range of eBikes.  Yet to meet one of their customers.  I'll have to hang out at Waitrose ......